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First of all Nic, this is a GREAT essay...really well developed and written. But of course you really got me with the Uru example. One thing I think we can say about Uru is that the game in many ways embodies the spirit of the New Games movement, beyond simply the examples we use in the Ludica paper but in the sense that it's a cooperative game! I don't think it's entirely an accident that the Baby Boomers of Uru are of the same generation as New Gamers. This is precisely why Ludica called for a "new" New Games movement in our paper. We felt like it was time for another revolutionary stance on gaming. We are long overdue for one!

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